at2oo1
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Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:45 am

Hi,

i´ve decided to work on some home automation project with raspberry pi, i want to controll all kind of 433MHz Devices like power plugs.

I´ve got no expirience in working with 433MHz senders or receivers and RPi cabling so i decided to do a simple test setup before i start with the real project. I´ll document the test setup here and later the real automation project.

Test Setup
Simple 433MHz send and receive with the RPi

Hardware:
- RPi Rev. B
- 433MHz Modules FS1000A XY-FST XY-MK-5V
- GPIO Breakout Kit, Breadboard and cables

Wiring:

RPi GPIO PINS (Revision 2):
Image
GPIO and PIN descriptions here

Breadboard setup
Image
Please note that my breakout P0 is PIN 11 on Raspberry and P1 is PIN12

Connect sender Module FS1000A:
ADATA: Pin 11 which is BCM GPIO 17 and WiringPi Pin 0
VCC: +3,3V on my breakout (without Breakout use Pin 1 on RPi)
GND: GND on my breakout (without Breakout use Pin 6 on RPi)

Connect receiver Module XY-MK-5V:
DATA: Pin 12 which is BCM GPIO 18 and WiringPi Pin 1 (Dosnt matter which of the both data pins you use)
VCC: +3,3V on my breakout (without Breakout use Pin 1 on RPi)
GND: GND on my breakout (without Breakout use Pin 6 on RPi)


Software Setup & Test:

0. Logon your rpi with ssh or open terminal
1. First we need "wiringPi" from gordon (needed by the pilight),m run following commands to install

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sudo apt-get install git-core
git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi
cd wiringPi
./build
2. Get "pilight" and dependencies, run following commands to install

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sudo apt-get install build-essential dialog cmake git
git clone --depth 5 -b master https://github.com/pilight/pilight.git
cd pilight
chmod +x setup.sh
sudo ./setup.sh
3. After running setup.sh a dialog appears, for my test setup i´ve installed all protocols by just hit enter on "save and install" (this takes a while)
4. After the installation is completed there is a configuration file that configures GPIOs which pilight uses. If you dont used my wiring on wiringPi PIN0 & PIN1 just update this file with your WiringPI PINs

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sudo nano /etc/pilight/hardware.json
5. Start the "pilight" deamon with

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sudo pilight-daemon
6. Start the 433Mhz Receiver programm with and let it run

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sudo pilight-receive
7. Open a second terminal or ssh session and send a 433MHz

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sudo pilight-send -p kaku_switch -i 123456 -u 0 -t
8. If you see following output on your receive window you successfully setup 433MHz sender / receiver

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pi@raspberrypi ~/pilight $ sudo pilight-receive
{
        "origin": "sender",
        "protocol": "arctech_switches",
        "code": {
                "id": 123456,
                "unit": 0,
                "state": "on"
        },
        "repeat": 1,
        "uuid": "0000-00-00-8f-2748a1"
}
Further Informations:
- pilight wiki and documentation
- wiringPi pin documentation
- The receiver normaly needs 5V to operate over a wide range, for the test setup i used 3,3V because we cant use 5V directly on the GPIOs

Next Steps:
- Control this 433MHz power plugs
- Create a tool that controls the plugs from my 19'' touch screen on my RPi (for details of the touchsee my other post)

Have Fun!
Meine Projekte auf http://raspberry.tips/

at2oo1
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:55 am

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Meine Projekte auf http://raspberry.tips/

HeroS_NL
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Sat Aug 02, 2014 2:37 pm

Didn't you have to use a 5V to get it working? I'm trying to send and receive signals but with no success.. (Didn't follow your tutorial, was just using my own project)

Massi
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:36 pm

HeroS_NL wrote:Didn't you have to use a 5V to get it working? I'm trying to send and receive signals but with no success.. (Didn't follow your tutorial, was just using my own project)
yes, you have to give 5V to the transmitter AND to the receiver.
Transmitter data pin can be moved by gpio at 3,3V
Receiver data pin (pins, ok) have to be lowered to be read by gpio (they exit at 5V), so take some resistance and make a partitor..

olihd
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:33 pm

Did you had a look at busware.de (here -> http://shop.busware.de/product_info.php ... ucts_id/44 )? It's a usb device which can be controlled from the command line or any programming language - no need to build something special. Firmware is available here -> culfw.de . Very well documented and available as source free. The device can transmit and receive, but receive is a little bit tricky - still working on it :-( Easy to control intertechno or similar devices.

equathza
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:27 pm

Thank you for the tutorial. I've successfully controlled several kaku switches and dimmers using a prototype setup. The receiver has only limited range because it operates at 3.3v. (still works though...)

Do you also plans on controlling them through a web interface?

Bianco
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:50 am

Does the fact the receiver needs 5V to work properly means it's sending 5V to its data pin?

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:30 am

Bianco wrote:Does the fact the receiver needs 5V to work properly means it's sending 5V to its data pin?
That's the case for the modules I've seen. You should use a voltage divider to convert the data out pin from 5V to 3.3V.

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:07 am

The cheap chinese one?

I guess my multimeter would be useless to check it, I'd need an oscilloscope or a logic analyser?

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:51 am

Bianco wrote:The cheap chinese one?

I guess my multimeter would be useless to check it, I'd need an oscilloscope or a logic analyser?
Cheap tends to invoke the wrong connotations, I prefer inexpensive.

Yes, those sorts of modules.

At a pinch any pair of resistors with equal value would do as a voltage divider. The voltage would be around 2.5 but would still be seen as a high. Failing that a single large resistor in series might reduce the damage to a manageable level.

Bianco
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:06 pm

joan wrote:
Bianco wrote:The cheap chinese one?

I guess my multimeter would be useless to check it, I'd need an oscilloscope or a logic analyser?
Cheap tends to invoke the wrong connotations, I prefer inexpensive.

Yes, those sorts of modules.
These really are cheap, especially the receiver. I just replace them for these: the range I gained is phenomenal!

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:16 pm

Thanks for the tip.

I'll look into buying some.

Bianco
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:12 pm

A good rule of thumb seems to be:
  • The receiver has a resonator (regardless of its looks: round, rectangular, ...): it's going to have a decent range
  • The receiver doesn't have one: it's a piece of ***

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:16 pm

Bianco wrote:A good rule of thumb seems to be:
  • The receiver has a resonator (regardless of its looks: round, rectangular, ...): it's going to have a decent range
  • The receiver doesn't have one: it's a piece of ***
so you gained range RECEIVING signals?
what's the range of the chinese receiver? and of your new one?
since i've no idea of how to code a program receiving signals :) i don't think i'm going to use it, but just for curiosity..

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:27 pm

Between the cheap emitter (Arduino) and the cheap receiver (R-Pi), I had around 8 meters of range (using RCSwitch or VirtualWire).
With the new one, I can't measure it without leaving my house. It has to be several dozens of meters.

Night and day, really.


Using a receiver on the Pi, you could have it automatically order a pizza when you press a button of your 433 MHz remote for instance :lol:

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:35 pm

Bianco wrote:Between the cheap emitter (Arduino) and the cheap receiver (R-Pi), I had around 8 meters of range (using RCSwitch or VirtualWire).
With the new one, I can't measure it without leaving my house. It has to be several dozens of meters.

Night and day, really.
while i assume that emitter is quite the same range, isn't it?
Using a receiver on the Pi, you could have it automatically order a pizza when you press a button of your 433 MHz remote for instance :lol:
Sure, but it's hard for me to think to the software managing this..
Not the pizza ordering, the listening for EVERYTHING to sense the correct message..
How can this be something not cpu intensive? i think it should go on listening trying to sense a "known" wave form, but this means always listen and always try to match the signal with the known waveform..

More than this, the chinese cheap (an as you say, sh** :D) receiver senses A LOT of noise. I assume that the cheap, but better, receiver senses MUCH MORE noise, isn't it?

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:25 pm

pattagghiu wrote:
Bianco wrote:Between the cheap emitter (Arduino) and the cheap receiver (R-Pi), I had around 8 meters of range (using RCSwitch or VirtualWire).
With the new one, I can't measure it without leaving my house. It has to be several dozens of meters.

Night and day, really.
while i assume that emitter is quite the same range, isn't it?
My test weren't that thorough so I can't really say but I did test the "old" emitter with the new receiver and the range was better than with both old modules.
Using a receiver on the Pi, you could have it automatically order a pizza when you press a button of your 433 MHz remote for instance :lol:
Sure, but it's hard for me to think to the software managing this..
Not the pizza ordering, the listening for EVERYTHING to sense the correct message..
How can this be something not cpu intensive? i think it should go on listening trying to sense a "known" wave form, but this means always listen and always try to match the signal with the known waveform..
Using software decoding, that's gonna be CPU intensive. I guess you could decode with a microcontroller though but that's not a solution I've tried.
More than this, the chinese cheap (an as you say, sh** :D) receiver senses A LOT of noise. I assume that the cheap, but better, receiver senses MUCH MORE noise, isn't it?
It's quite possible the resonator enables it to filter a bit that noise?
I didn't check on piscope: the libraries are handling the noise for me.

Alternatively, you can also buy/build a low pass filter (again, not a solution I've tried).

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:29 pm

Bianco wrote:Alternatively, you can also buy/build a low pass filter (again, not a solution I've tried).
mmm not sure about that.
From another topic where we were talking about receivers, it seems that the receiver has a sort of "gain" (lol, speaking as a true noob, take care of this) so that noise you sense when there are no "true" signals is not sensed between close signals (that's why when you send multiple signal between them the line in the oscilloscope is nice and plain..)

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

Not a low pass filter but a band pass filter, according to the experts at pilight.org:
https://github.com/pilight/pilight_firmware

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:41 am

This:

http://lowpowerlab.com/moteino/#antennas

These things are rad. Fully functional Uno/Nano clone + RFM, great library and support. $20-25. No-brainer.

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:47 pm

Hi olihd,

I'm also trying to read 433MHz signals using CUL v1.61 and CULFW + Pi, did you by any chance solved how to manage it? I'm struggling and I'm starting to think I'll have to write code to make it happen.

Thanks.

sneeu
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:30 am

Steps 7 and 8 are not really reliabe to test whether the modules are working.
sending pilight-send -p kaku_switch -i 123456 -u 0 -t generate the same output to pilight-receive even if no(!) modules (neither receiver nor sender) are conneted to the pi at all

lexaberlin
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:21 pm

Hello. I am trying this code and at one point when i do:

sudo ./setup.sh

i got this error:

CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:245 (message):
Looking for libunwind - not found

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.

Any idea? Thanks!

centos90
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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Thu May 19, 2016 6:08 pm

sudo ./setup.sh

I get this error

-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/home/pi/pilight/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.
pi@raspberrypi:~/pilight $


output.log

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pi@raspberrypi:~/pilight $ cat /home/pi/pilight/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log
The system is: Linux - 4.4.9-v7+ - armv7l
Compiling the C compiler identification source file "CMakeCCompilerId.c" succeeded.
Compiler: /usr/bin/cc
Build flags:
Id flags:

The output was:
0


Compilation of the C compiler identification source "CMakeCCompilerId.c" produced "a.out"

The C compiler identification is GNU, found in "/home/pi/pilight/build/CMakeFiles/3.0.2/CompilerIdC/a.out"

Compiling the CXX compiler identification source file "CMakeCXXCompilerId.cpp" succeeded.
Compiler: /usr/bin/c++
Build flags:
Id flags:

The output was:
0


Compilation of the CXX compiler identification source "CMakeCXXCompilerId.cpp" produced "a.out"

The CXX compiler identification is GNU, found in "/home/pi/pilight/build/CMakeFiles/3.0.2/CompilerIdCXX/a.out"

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Re: Send & Receive 433MHz Signals For Home Automation

Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:10 pm

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