Debian Bullseye Officially released yesterday 8-14-2021

[tigernero]

I noticed that my raspbian pi OS arm 64 bit distribution based on debian buster changed the packages from stable to old-stable,

I am wondering if it is already possible to totally switch to bullseye and if "Yes" what specific command to run or will it still take a few days of waiting?

I'm happy to have openssh 8.4 so that I can use fido2 credentials to authenticate myself in remote logins and use yubico-pam packages

[DougieLawson]

So you didn't see viewtopic.php?f=62&t=317536

Try searching before posting.

[tigernero]

I have read but I do not find traces on a possible release date for raspian Pi OS, not even a possible roadmap, nor if it is already possible now from terminal for arm64 version to get bullseye from buster.

[jamesh]

We release when ready, not to a schedule.

[GlowInTheDark]

We release when ready, not to a schedule.

Heh heh. That's the attitude I always took towards showing up at work.
Works well.

(Not joking)

[tigernero]

Ok, thanks

[sup]

We release when ready, not to a schedule.

Fair enough but is there any indication on how much work there remains to be done? I am mainly asking if there is any chance the release would happen by the end of August 2021 or if that is out of the question. (I understand you do nto want to promise a date but ruling out a date should be easier).

[B.Goode]

We release when ready, not to a schedule.

Fair enough but is there any indication on how much work there remains to be done? I am mainly asking if there is any chance the release would happen by the end of August 2021 or if that is out of the question. (I understand you do nto want to promise a date but ruling out a date should be easier).

Here's a completely uninformed comment from a fellow forum reader and volunteer helper...

The upstream Debian release was made yesterday, Saturday 14th August 2021.

The software engineers employed by Raspberry Pi Trading are probably not paid to work at weekends.

So they won't officially know what is in the final release until after they start work on Monday 16th August, and until they know that they won't know "how much work there remains to be done."

I really wouldn't expect any informed constructive comment for at least 24 hours from now... And maybe not even then, given the policy already succinctly outlined above.

[fruitoftheloom]

We release when ready, not to a schedule.

Fair enough but is there any indication on how much work there remains to be done? I am mainly asking if there is any chance the release would happen by the end of August 2021 or if that is out of the question. (I understand you do nto want to promise a date but ruling out a date should be easier).

Here's a completely uninformed comment from a fellow forum reader and volunteer helper...

The upstream Debian release was made yesterday, Saturday 14th August 2021.

The software engineers employed by Raspberry Pi Trading are probably not paid to work at weekends.

So they won't officially know what is in the final release until after they start work on Monday 16th August, and until they know that they won't know "how much work there remains to be done."

I really wouldn't expect any informed constructive comment for at least 24 hours from now... And maybe not even then, given the policy already succinctly outlined above.

We also have August Bank Holiday as well as school's out so may not have full compliment of staff.

So as per the past decade (except on a couple of occasions) there is unlikely to be any indication

[jamesh]

I think it just bugfixes, but I believe there's some niggly ones in there, so who knows.

And lots of people on hols at moment. Like me.

[davesteele]

First, apologies for the treatment you are getting here.

Based on history, you should be prepared for a wait of 3 months or longer before Raspbian makes the switch.

[lurk101]

We release when ready, not to a schedule.

Yeah, I get that. The old Hewlett Packard had the same policy, we don't announce till ready to ship. As they grew it began to hurt them.

[pasman1]

Based on history, you should be prepared for a wait of 3 months or longer before Raspbian makes the switch.

+1

probably ubuntu impish will be released faster.

[ejolson]

Based on history, you should be prepared for a wait of 3 months or longer before Raspbian makes the switch.

+1

probably ubuntu impish will be released faster.

My recollection is the version of Raspberry Pi OS based on Buster was released a week before Debian Buster was official

My personal preference is for the current version of Raspberry Pi OS to continue to be supported until June 2024 or for as long as Buster is supported by Debian.

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

[gordon77]

Based on history, you should be prepared for a wait of 3 months or longer before Raspbian makes the switch.

+1

probably ubuntu impish will be released faster.

My recollection is the version of Raspberry Pi OS based on Buster was released a week before Debian Buster was official.

+1 24 June 2019 vs 6 July 2019 according to wiki.

[fruitoftheloom]

Based on history, you should be prepared for a wait of 3 months or longer before Raspbian makes the switch.

+1

probably ubuntu impish will be released faster.

My recollection is the version of Raspberry Pi OS based on Buster was released a week before Debian Buster was official

My personal preference is for the current version of Raspberry Pi OS to continue to be supported until June 2024 or for as long as Buster is supported by Debian.

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

Raspberry Pi (Raspbian Buster) OS was released early to specifically coincide with the launch of the 4B:.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbe ... ow-from-35

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/buster ... f-raspbian

[jamesh]

First, apologies for the treatment you are getting here.

Based on history, you should be prepared for a wait of 3 months or longer before Raspbian makes the switch.

Please report any untoward posts. I've already deleted one.

[RonR]

Maybe this will be helpful: Upgrading Raspberry Pi OS Buster to Bullseye for Testing Purposes

[jools72]

We release when ready, not to a schedule.

Heh heh. That's the attitude I always took towards showing up at work.
Works well.

(Not joking)

What did you boss say to that?

[davesteele]

Based on history, you should be prepared for a wait of 3 months or longer before Raspbian makes the switch.

+1

probably ubuntu impish will be released faster.

My recollection is the version of Raspberry Pi OS based on Buster was released a week before Debian Buster was official

I'm probably remembering the Stretch release.

[Cloudcentric]

+1

probably ubuntu impish will be released faster.

My recollection is the version of Raspberry Pi OS based on Buster was released a week before Debian Buster was official

I'm probably remembering the Stretch release.

Raspbian Buster was released to coincided with the launch of the 4B, the 4B was released earlier than expected so it was always not going to support earlier releases:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbe ... ow-from-35

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/buster ... f-raspbian

[davesteele]

My recollection is the version of Raspberry Pi OS based on Buster was released a week before Debian Buster was official

I'm probably remembering the Stretch release.

Raspbian Buster was released to coincided with the launch of the 4B, the 4B was released earlier than expected so it was always not going to support earlier releases:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbe ... ow-from-35

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/buster ... f-raspbian

The Jessie release came 6 months after Debian. Stretch was 2 months.