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by clivem
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:45 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

Although there has been a follow-up, and as I said previously we're looking into how we can change this. You assume that things can happen in days when dealing with legal issues... They can't, especially not when the legal discussions are between a company in the UK and one in the US and during the...
by clivem
Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:28 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Forum member's cameo appearance...
Replies: 47
Views: 2720

Re: Forum member's cameo appearance...

Although in my book its close enough to open source not to worry about it. I'm not sure where you are going with that argument. It should be made very clear to anyone who intends to use the VSCode product download, that is is subject to the terms of a closed source, proprietary, Microsoft Software ...
by clivem
Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:47 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Forum member's cameo appearance...
Replies: 47
Views: 2720

Re: Forum member's cameo appearance...

VSCode is NOT closed source. The vscode git repo, 'Code - OSS', is MIT licensed Open Source code. The vscode binary product that is being downloaded from Microsoft, contains Open Source code, but it is not Open Source, just because it contains some (but not all) Open Source code. The Microsoft Soft...
by clivem
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:57 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Forum member's cameo appearance...
Replies: 47
Views: 2720

Re: Forum member's cameo appearance...

So what do we call SW that is mostly open, e.g. vscode? It's clearly not closed source, but not quite fully open source. Mostly open..... Not quite fully open.... ???????????????????? That's called closed source! There is no grey area. Either it is 100% Open Source, or it isn't Open Source at all. ...
by clivem
Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:58 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

Considering there was a Blog Post from a MS Developer recently, it would appear that nothing is going to change anytime soon. Well, I suppose things could have changed, but if it is the case, it would be nice to hear it from Gordon, as it was he who posted 8 days ago, that they hadn't removed the M...
by clivem
Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:58 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

gsh wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:05 pm
We haven't yet removed the repo from the lite version because we think we'll have a better solution in the next couple of days.
Do you have an update yet?
by clivem
Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:00 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

Oh, I didn't even know a .deb file could have a signature. In the past I've only seen that done through signed .changes and .dsc files. Learned something new, thanks. I sign all of the packages I distribute from my private repo. eg. $ dpkg-sig --verify squeezelite_1.9.8.1344-1_armhf.deb Processing ...
by clivem
Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

. https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/visual-studio-code-comes-to-raspberry-pi Here we go again....... VS Code is a free, open source developer text editor originally released for Windows, macOS and x64 Linux. Will someone please explain to him that the product [/color] he is instructing people to ins...
by clivem
Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:10 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

Right, the GPG key is used to sign the package list, not the individual packages. The package list then contains checksums of all the packages so apt can tell you if there's a mismatch. Yep, the code deb itself, isn't signed..... $ dpkg-sig --verify code_1.53.2-1613044047_armhf.deb Processing code_...
by clivem
Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:46 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

Tinkering with things to learn more, it seems that the GPG key is not needed to allow installation of the code package at all... Not sure what leads you to that conclusion. Remove microsoft.gpg and "sudo apt update".... $ sudo apt update Hit:1 http://private_repo/repos/apt/raspbian buster...
by clivem
Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:22 am
Forum: Troubleshooting
Topic: MT7601U driver/firmware
Replies: 9
Views: 1550

Re: MT7601U driver/firmware

sofree wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:35 am
It looks like, sometimes I have an issue with mt7601u.
The rpi-5.10.y kernel, (current apt package is 5.10.11), doesn't include .....

mt7601u: fix rx buffer refcounting

Didn't come from upstream until 5.10.13. Need RPi to release a kernel >=5.10.13.
by clivem
Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:22 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

That still leaves the issue of those who will complain about the Pi Foundation suggesting the use of VSCode for use with Pi Pico. No matter what you do, you'll never placate anyone who has M$ paranoia, unless you put the M$ repo/gpg files into a new package called eg. "ms-vscode-repo", an...
by clivem
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

But what you did there has completely ruined my trust in you. You installed Microsoft non-free repository in all my Pi computers, with GPG key, without my consent, without any changelog. Without your consent.... That's fair, but without any changelog? Nope! It was documented in the raspberrypi-sys-...
by clivem
Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:27 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/02/raspberry-pi-os-added-a-microsoft-repo-no-its-not-an-evil-secret "Fierce advocate of FOSS" proclaims, "No, it’s not an evil secret"! You just couldn't make it up! ;) And on Wikipedia.... The great "Microsoft Repository Controversy&quo...
by clivem
Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:45 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

I would imagine anyone into building their own VS Code is doing it to avoid contact with MS servers. Not so much a user wanting to avoid contact with M$ servers...... Other way around, M$ prohibits it..... My understanding is that M$ terms of service for the Marketplace prohibit a) non-M$ Visual St...
by clivem
Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:08 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

No problem getting extensions installed. If you can find the repo/website of the extension developer. One other thing I should have mentioned...... While possible to do so, it is questionable whether it is actually legal to install extensions downloaded directly from M$ Visual Studio Marketplace, (...
by clivem
Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:13 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

Is the Microsoft binary redistributable or was lack of being able to do that why the repository was added instead? If it's not redistributable, does that mean it would not be legal to create a custom image for students to download that included VS Code already configured and ready to go for Pico de...
by clivem
Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:58 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

"Code-OSS" does not really exist, except as the name put in my Mac menu bar when I run the thing as far as I can tell. In fact it's only a string in a config file which is easily changed: It's really simple. 'Code - OSS' is the MIT licensed Open Source code. VSCode (which is what will be ...
by clivem
Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:33 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

No idea. Perhaps The Pi folks have created an extension for downloading code to the pico and debugging it. The "Getting Started with Raspberry Pi Pico" pdf document instructs to install 3 extensions after installing the VSCode product. code --install-extension marus25.cortex-debug code --...
by clivem
Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:17 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

What extra functionality does Microsoft add to the binary version of VS Code that is provided by their repository? Are those extra features important for the Pico? Microsoft Visual Studio Code is a Microsoft licensed distribution of 'Code - OSS' that includes Microsoft proprietary assets (such as i...
by clivem
Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:22 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestion

VSCode is Open Source. It's published under the MIT license and the source code is on GitHub. Please stop posting misinformation! VSCode is NOT Open Source! The 'Code - OSS' github repository is Open Source MIT license, yes, that's true...... BUT..... Visual Studio Code is a distribution of the Cod...
by clivem
Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:11 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestionv

Yes, you can switch telemetry off. Google it. MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS The software may collect information about you and your use of the software, and send that to Microsoft. Microsoft may use this information to provide services and improve our products and services. You may opt-out of ma...
by clivem
Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:02 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Microsoft GPG key suggestion
Replies: 477
Views: 45061

Re: Microsoft GPG key suggestionv

Yes, you can switch telemetry off. Google it. MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS The software may collect information about you and your use of the software, and send that to Microsoft. Microsoft may use this information to provide services and improve our products and services. You may opt-out of ma...
by clivem
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:29 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting
Topic: MT7601U driver/firmware
Replies: 9
Views: 1550

Re: MT7601U driver/firmware

I have no problem running an mt7601 wifi, 148f:7601, on any of my PI, Pi2, Pi3, Pi4, running a variety of kernel versions, 4.19, 5.4 and 5.10. MrEngman, check your logs on 5.10. I've seen backtraces with 5.10, all the way through to 5.10.9. Always seems to mention mt7601u_rx_tasklet in the bt. Prob...
by clivem
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:13 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting
Topic: MT7601U driver/firmware
Replies: 9
Views: 1550

Re: MT7601U driver/firmware

The wifi driver and firmware for the mt7601 should be installed if using RaspOS I have no problem running an mt7601 wifi, 148f:7601, on any of my PI, Pi2, Pi3, Pi4, running a variety of kernel versions, 4.19, 5.4 and 5.10. From memory (and this is going back 5 years) when you see that msg about EEP...

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