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Re: Feedback on website split

Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:25 pm

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Re: Feedback on website split

Sun Oct 10, 2021 6:51 am

They're the server host, have been for a long time (no idea how long). Our local Apt repository is on there too.
They also rent out Pi3 and Pi4 server usage to people...
And were involved in the Pi4 release.


...

The progress is that Foundation ran the website before (or at least seemed too for updates etc) , so if Trading now run the main website (.com) it can be made more specific to them and then more specific to users and industry. Which should be better support and information for all.
I call that progress.

The other progress is .org (now not the main site I would say) now gets a proper education split, it should be easier to find and focus on training and educating people. They do a lot, more than the website really seems to show, because a lot is split over many other external websites and social media etc.
It can be clearer without the clutter of hardware and tech support.


As a person who uses both sides*, that is my opinion. It could be wrong, let's see how it works out.


*but not industry.


:-)

Oh and if you're on the foundation site and want to get to the trading site and too lazy to type.
Hit 'computers' in the menu.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:03 am

trejan wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:11 pm
ejolson wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:48 pm
While the dog developer claims devoting more resources to a project always delays it further, as an enthusiastic user I can't help from wanting more resources to be focused on the operating system and less on the design of the website.
You're making a big assumption that the people doing web development are the same people doing OS development.
And an assumption that is entirely wrong. Why do people always fall into this nonsense idea? It's completely crazy to think that a web dev team would be able to cope with Linux kernel development. That is a very specialist subject and not for the faint hearted.

At trading, we have people who do web, separate people who do kernel, different people who do desktop etc. Some can cross over, but I guarantee that the website change has had no impact on the distro development whatsoever. And that includes funding.

The move to 64 bit is complicated, and not helped by the fact that parts of the Linux system, camera and dsi especially, are still in development upstream so we are working with unfinished APIs. These are both areas that HAVE to work before a 64bit release.
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Re: Feedback on website split

Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:15 pm

trejan wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:11 pm
ejolson wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:48 pm
While the dog developer claims devoting more resources to a project always delays it further, as an enthusiastic user I can't help from wanting more resources to be focused on the operating system and less on the design of the website.
You're making a big assumption that the people doing web development are the same people doing OS development.
I didn't read it that way but more "I would prefer it if effort and resources were expended on OS development rather than on web redesign", favouring the OS Team over the Web Team, rather than suggesting they would be one and the same. Much like "I'd rather you got the electricians in than the plumbers".

With the amount of money RPT have I can't see there being an issue no matter what they do, doing one thing shouldn't detract from another.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:25 pm

hippy wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:15 pm
With the amount of money RPT have I can't see there being an issue no matter what they do, doing one thing shouldn't detract from another.
We don't have endless pots of cash, but we certainly don't let work on webstuff get in the way of development work.
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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:33 am

I have not read the whole thread so maybe this has already been reported.

Viewing the forum on my phone (Android, Firefox) there used to be a little black house in the breadcrumbs to go to the board index.
It doesn't show up any more, though there is a space for it.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:29 am

jbudd wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:33 am
Viewing the forum on my phone (Android, Firefox) there used to be a little black house in the breadcrumbs to go to the board index.
It doesn't show up any more, though there is a space for it.
It is screen width related. There is a chunk of CSS in the RPi theme stylesheet.css:4551 that hides the first breadcrumb i.e. "Board index" if the screen width is <= 600. Using landscape mode on your phone should make it reappear. Resizing your desktop browser window to be very thin will make it disappear.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:42 am

Well yes, but my phone screen hasn't got any smaller. It used to have a link to the board index at the top. Now it doesn't.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:44 am

jbudd wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:42 am
Well yes, but my phone screen hasn't got any smaller.
I know. I'm saying that is why it disappears. They need to edit the stylesheet to fix it.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:52 am

The words "Board index" disappear on small screens. A minor irritant, but I'm talking about the black "home" icon on the line above. On wider screens it's to the left of Board index.

Of course there is still Board index at the bottom of the screen and Forums in the hamburgerised main menu.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:54 am

jbudd wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:52 am
On wider screens it's to the left of Board index.
I don't see a house icon on any device including desktop. It was replaced by "Board index" in the new forum.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:54 am

Maybe the fa-home icon is a hang-over in my desktop browser cache.
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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:29 pm

jbudd wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:52 am
The words "Board index" disappear on small screens. A minor irritant, but I'm talking about the black "home" icon on the line above. On wider screens it's to the left of Board index.
Not on my screen it's not. I'm on a 1080p laptop screen on Windows with the Chrome browser, with the system scaling set to 125%. From left to right I get hamburger, Board Index > Community > General discussion.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:42 pm

I believe that the issue mentioned in the last few posts has now been fixed. Not sure how long it takes to propagate through the release process, might already be there.
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Re: Feedback on website split

Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:46 pm

jamesh wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:42 pm
I believe that the issue mentioned in the last few posts has now been fixed. Not sure how long it takes to propagate through the release process, might already be there.
The missing main forum link is back on the prosilver theme. "Board index" still disappears on the RPi theme though.
jbudd wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:54 am
Maybe the fa-home icon is a hang-over in my desktop browser cache.
The missing house was due to differences between the RPi and prosilver themes. I'm using the RPi theme which has no house.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:18 pm

I just noticed that in the post/edit form, the toolbar buttons above the text box were not doing anything. This is because I had allowed JavaScript for raspberrypi.org, but never for .com.

I am actually impressed the forum worked so well without JS. The other issue it seems to fix is that the "Go to last post" link in topic lists now goes to the top of the correct post again, instead of randomly down into the footer boilerplate.

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Re: Feedback on website split

Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:27 pm

Some people don't seem to have any sense of humor and just can't take a joke. lol

I do NOT miss the flicky-flicker and total screen grey-out at top of screen every time which was very annoying.

I wonder if my ability to finally log in was due to contacting 'admin' or just a temporary bug fix or... I never did get any of the several password reset email requests. Did this fix itself or something else eventually let me get in? Hmm...

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