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Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:08 am

There are many fruit Unicode symbols, but Raspberry is missing:
https://emojipedia.org/strawberry/
Closest I found is U+1F353 strawberry.
So while command prompt is close, it is not correct:
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:38 am

I did cut out 15x17 strawberry image from command prompt of ssh session into the Pi.
Then I copied 40x50 raspberry image from top of Raspberry homepage, and used gimp to scale it down to 14x17:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/

Attached you can see both 15x17/14x17 images, original size at bottom, and scaled to 800% on top.
For me the original size raspberry image looks nicer than the strawberry one.
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:31 pm

Finally I scaled down the 40x50 raspberry image from website to 8x10 and added 3 lines top and bottom to get strawberry.8x16.png (because my console font is 8x16). I displayed where prompt should appear using con_show tool (top left part of console, screenshot taken with raspi2png):
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From 40x50 to 16x16 as double width character looks nicer:
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Sat Jan 25, 2020 3:21 pm

Getting an emoji into the Unicode standard is difficult. The Raspberry Pi Logo is especially so because it's a trademark, and thus it is automatically excluded from the standard. Anyone can submit a proposal for an emoji character, but they must prove that the need exists, with frequency of need being the most valuable.

Another way of getting a glyph added to Unicode is to prove that a historic use. Good articles on this include Ken Shirriff's “How I added 6 characters to Unicode (and you can too)” and the Terminals Working Group's “Proposal to add characters from legacy computers and teletext to the UCS” (PDF). I don't think a raspberry would fit in one of those proposals.

There are already informal Discord/Slack Raspberry Pi logo emojis, such as this one:
1348_raspberrypi.png
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(Unfortunately we can't size images on this forum: Discord and Slack scale emoji appropriately.)
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:03 am

Only "berry" on emojifinder is strawberry:
https://emojifinder.com/tool

So perhaps ;-)

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🍓 export PS1=`echo -en "Rasp\xf0\x9f\x8d\x93\x20"`
Rasp🍓 
Rasp🍓 only_tools="🔧 🔨 🗜️  ⛏️"   # no rasp 
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:16 am

I found a 5 (unicode) characters "Raspberry" rebus prompt:

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R㉝p🍓▐

I started with this Python like rebus:

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🍓[2:3]sp🍓[5:]

Then I made use of element 33 (Arseni, or As):

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R㉝p🍓[5:]

Using rebus subword expression for "berry":

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R㉝p6-🍓

Finally the use of U+2590 "Right half block" is shorter to extract "berry":
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:58 am

Given that there are people in the world who can't write their name in their native language using a Unicode symbol, I think a raspberry probably should be low on the list of priorities. :roll:
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:54 pm

I'd probably replace the R㉝p with 䥨 (alt+4968) which is a CJK ideograph for "Rasp".
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:50 pm

The nearest actual-Raspberry proposal that's in front of the Unicode consortium is the one for Blissymbols. From the proposal (page 7), the symbol is:
E0C4-Blissymbol_Raspberry.png
E0C4 Blissymbol Raspberry
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As the proposal is from a well-respected researcher who has been successful getting many proposals accepted before, and it's outside the pay-to-play emoji block, it's got a fair chance of getting in eventually. Unfortunately, the next release has been postponed for obvious reasons.

(Blissymbols have found use as a communications tool for people with disabilities. Use of Blissymbols were part of a key human rights trial here in Canada, where a man — Justin Clark — sued his parents for the right to make his own decisions and communicated with the court through a Blissymbols board and interpreter.)
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Sun Oct 04, 2020 2:43 am

HermannSW wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:16 am
I found a 5 (unicode) characters "Raspberry" rebus prompt:

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R㉝p🍓▐

I started with this Python like rebus:

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🍓[2:3]sp🍓[5:]

Then I made use of element 33 (Arseni, or As):

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R㉝p🍓[5:]

Using rebus subword expression for "berry":

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R㉝p6-🍓

Finally the use of U+2590 "Right half block" is shorter to extract "berry":
Raspberry_prompt.jpg
That's a strawberry though.
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Re: Should RPF work on getting Raspberry Unicode symbol?

Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:17 am

That's a strawberry though

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R㉝p➞Rasp

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🍓▐➞strawberry, right half word➞berry
Therefore my new (rebus) prompt

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R㉝p🍓▐
is "Raspberry".
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