mimi123
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Android is useless

Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:26 pm

It's a consumer platform not adhering to the RPi goals<aka education>(even my tablet is running Debian since a while with MATE[Cubian X,it's an Allwinner A20 SoC based tablet], and it's way better with loads of useful software)

If you want some games, try apkenv.(tested both on my Pi and on CubianX ) or check for Java-compatible ones.

There is nearly no hope to get it working *natively*(GPU buffer management sucks).

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jamesh
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Re: Android is useless

Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:41 pm

IIRC, Android running on VC4 did need a lot of changes for buffer management. Which has never been ported to the pi.
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mimi123
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Re: Android is useless

Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:48 pm

jamesh wrote:IIRC, Android running on VC4 did need a lot of changes for buffer management. Which has never been ported to the pi.
Where is the "full source code" of that? Even if it's here,the Pi has only OpenGL ES 2.0 support so it will not run most of the newer games.

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Re: Android is useless

Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:50 pm

Can you do a "while ( aAndroidThreadIsAlive() ) { lockIt() }" or lock the complete subforum and add one for Ubuntu (Snappy)?

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Re: Android is useless

Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:06 pm

mimi123 wrote:If you want some games, try apkenv.(tested both on my Pi and on CubianX )
Could you please post some information about building apkenv for the RPi? Thanks.

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Re: Android is useless

Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:24 pm

mimi123 wrote:
jamesh wrote:IIRC, Android running on VC4 did need a lot of changes for buffer management. Which has never been ported to the pi.
Where is the "full source code" of that? Even if it's here,the Pi has only OpenGL ES 2.0 support so it will not run most of the newer games.
Internal Broadcom. No idea where it is now.
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mimi123
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Re: Android is useless

Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:20 pm

gyeben wrote:
mimi123 wrote:If you want some games, try apkenv.(tested both on my Pi and on CubianX )
Could you please post some information about building apkenv for the RPi? Thanks.
It is the same as the sunxi version(linux-x11 branch) with my X11EGLRPI layer.

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Re: Android is useless

Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:03 pm

We should scrap the gaming section too, then. And ban Eben from ever again uttering the phrase 'pretty good media player'.
note: I may or may not know what I'm talking about...

mimi123
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Re: Android is useless

Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:58 am

gralloc is stable now. (vc4-drm uses the same ABI, dma_buf as the ARM Mali gralloc) and it works well.

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Re: Android is useless

Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:02 pm

why don't we just shift this discussion here and free up the stress from the moderators...
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/android-rpi
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