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WINE Alternative?

Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:38 pm

Okay, you could say I'm getting kinda frustrated with almost none of my x86 apps working through Box86. I was able to play some of my old Windows games in DOSBOX, but I want one I could use to run x86 Windows Games from the 2000s and low-end games from the 2010s. Is there any out there? I was interested in exagear until I found out it's gone. I would prefer one like PPSSPP that boots up a Window and not a userspace emulator.
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Re: x86 emulator

Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:42 pm

There is only qemu-system I guess on the Pi.

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Re: x86 emulator

Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:20 pm

ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:42 pm
There is only qemu-system I guess on the Pi.
Sorry for me getting mad about Box86, I guess actually what I should've gotten mad about was Wine not working (because actually I've gotten a lot working in Box86, just Box86+Wine not really). You still do great work on Box86/64! It's WINE that needs more work I guess. Is there any alternative to Wine?
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Re: x86 emulator

Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:52 pm

RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:20 pm
ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:42 pm
There is only qemu-system I guess on the Pi.
Sorry for me getting mad about Box86, I guess actually what I should've gotten mad about was Wine not working (because actually I've gotten a lot working in Box86, just Box86+Wine not really). You still do great work on Box86/64! It's WINE that needs more work I guess. Is there any alternative to Wine?
That's ok. You have the right to find box or Wine not fitting your need after some intensive testing!

About your question: to my knowledge, Wine as no equivalent (beside Proton, but that's still a fork of Wine)

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Re: x86 emulator

Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:19 pm

ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:52 pm
RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:20 pm
ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:42 pm
There is only qemu-system I guess on the Pi.
Sorry for me getting mad about Box86, I guess actually what I should've gotten mad about was Wine not working (because actually I've gotten a lot working in Box86, just Box86+Wine not really). You still do great work on Box86/64! It's WINE that needs more work I guess. Is there any alternative to Wine?
That's ok. You have the right to find box or Wine not fitting your need after some intensive testing!

About your question: to my knowledge, Wine as no equivalent (beside Proton, but that's still a fork of Wine)
I guess my only option now is to try out installing WINE from WineHQ instead of the TwisterOS FAQ page. I'll try to post here my results.
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Re: x86 emulator

Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:41 pm

RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:19 pm
ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:52 pm
RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:20 pm


Sorry for me getting mad about Box86, I guess actually what I should've gotten mad about was Wine not working (because actually I've gotten a lot working in Box86, just Box86+Wine not really). You still do great work on Box86/64! It's WINE that needs more work I guess. Is there any alternative to Wine?
That's ok. You have the right to find box or Wine not fitting your need after some intensive testing!

About your question: to my knowledge, Wine as no equivalent (beside Proton, but that's still a fork of Wine)
I guess my only option now is to try out installing WINE from WineHQ instead of the TwisterOS FAQ page. I'll try to post here my results.

https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM64

https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM
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Re: x86 emulator

Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:58 pm

Cloudcentric wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:41 pm
RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:19 pm
ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 3:52 pm


That's ok. You have the right to find box or Wine not fitting your need after some intensive testing!

About your question: to my knowledge, Wine as no equivalent (beside Proton, but that's still a fork of Wine)
I guess my only option now is to try out installing WINE from WineHQ instead of the TwisterOS FAQ page. I'll try to post here my results.

https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM64

https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM
I meant the x86 version of it. It has instructions on how on Box86's Github page.
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Re: WINE Alternative?

Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:16 pm

Okay, just finished working, so now I'm ready to try out getting WINE from WineHQ installed. But before I do, is there any way I could compile wine64 for Box64 so I can run 64-bit Windows apps as well as 32-bit ones?
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Re: WINE Alternative?

Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:43 pm

RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:16 pm
Okay, just finished working, so now I'm ready to try out getting WINE from WineHQ installed. But before I do, is there any way I could compile wine64 for Box64 so I can run 64-bit Windows apps as well as 32-bit ones?
Use this https://www.playonlinux.com/wine/binari ... nux-amd64/
the 6.00 version works. If you use that 64bits version, you don't need to install a 32bits one, it include both.

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Re: WINE Alternative?

Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:02 pm

ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:43 pm
RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:16 pm
Okay, just finished working, so now I'm ready to try out getting WINE from WineHQ installed. But before I do, is there any way I could compile wine64 for Box64 so I can run 64-bit Windows apps as well as 32-bit ones?
Use this https://www.playonlinux.com/wine/binari ... nux-amd64/
the 6.00 version works. If you use that 64bits version, you don't need to install a 32bits one, it include both.
Just downloaded it, but how do I compile it? Or do I just have to run each file individually?
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Re: WINE Alternative?

Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:39 am

RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:02 pm
ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:43 pm
RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:16 pm
Okay, just finished working, so now I'm ready to try out getting WINE from WineHQ installed. But before I do, is there any way I could compile wine64 for Box64 so I can run 64-bit Windows apps as well as 32-bit ones?
Use this https://www.playonlinux.com/wine/binari ... nux-amd64/
the 6.00 version works. If you use that 64bits version, you don't need to install a 32bits one, it include both.
Just downloaded it, but how do I compile it? Or do I just have to run each file individually?
It's already compiled. Just extract that somewhere in your home, and create symlink in /usr/local/bin to wine, wine64 and wineserver (at least, maybe winecfg too) from the bin folder.

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Re: WINE Alternative?

Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:43 pm

ptitSeb wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:39 am
RasPiGaming wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:02 pm
ptitSeb wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:43 pm


Use this https://www.playonlinux.com/wine/binari ... nux-amd64/
the 6.00 version works. If you use that 64bits version, you don't need to install a 32bits one, it include both.
Just downloaded it, but how do I compile it? Or do I just have to run each file individually?
It's already compiled. Just extract that somewhere in your home, and create symlink in /usr/local/bin to wine, wine64 and wineserver (at least, maybe winecfg too) from the bin folder.
Is there a tutorial for doing that? I'm not very familiar with symlinking.
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Re: WINE Alternative?

Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:40 pm

Okay, I decided to just try 'em out the ./wine and ./wine64 way. Errors come up as well, so maybe something is just wrong with all my WINE installs? It said it failed to create some drivers (specifically wineusb). Is there a way I could try Proton without DXVK? That way I could launch stuff in Steam as well. I'm guessing that's the problem as when I try to use Proton in Steam it always says the app configuration failed, and during configuration I'm guessing it would try to use DXVK.
EDIT: I think I know now why WINE isn't working. Because I created a new wine prefix, the basic winetricks packages weren't installed yet, and errors were coming up about them. So I guess I just need to install more wine packages then.
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Re: WINE Alternative?

Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:39 pm

Okay I'm trying to boot WINE again, but it's stuck at a command called "my_read", I've waited several minutes but it stays on it. Any ideas?

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3938|0xf771db73: Calling my_read (00000007, F708C720, 00000010...) =>
EDIT: It happens right after I wrote this it finished it. Weird.
EDIT 2: Now when trying to start winetricks it gets stuck.

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+ w_try winetricks_early_wine cmd /c echo init
EDIT 3: Got winetricks working finally, but wine runs so slow it's unusable. I'm going back to 5.x Wine, 6.x too slow.
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