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Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:29 am

The bullseye-based Raspberry Pi OS has been released this morning - the version is 2021-10-30. See https://www.raspberrypi.com/software/operating-systems/ for details.

Some nice new features I've spotted so far:

- screen tearing problem is solved - hooray!
- New GUI-based update tool
- Desktop defaults to no overscan (at least with my monitor). This may be a consequence of defaulting to KMS (was previously FKMS on Pi 4, legacy driver on "earlier" Pis, i.e. including the new Pi Zero 2).

I expect there will be a blog post in the next day or two to tell us all about it.

Another great release from Raspberry Pi - nice work :D

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:40 am

Ooo, how interesting :)

How is the audio configured? Can you post the default /boot/config.txt file?

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:40 am

Release date 30 October, pretty sneaky :!:

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:48 am

That was the date the final RC was built, on which final testing was done.
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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:53 am

jamesh wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:48 am
That was the date the final RC was built, on which final testing was done.
And which appear to have been publicly released only this morning, since that's the date in the directory name, i.e. 2021-11-08.

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:57 am

See the home page for the release announcement blog post: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspbe ... -bullseye/.

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:58 am

andrum99 wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:53 am
jamesh wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:48 am
That was the date the final RC was built, on which final testing was done.
And which appear to have been publicly released only this morning, since that's the date in the directory name, i.e. 2021-11-08.
Correct. And you've seen the blog post now, so its all official! As you can see, a LOT| has been done, which may go some way to explaining why its taken a while.

I'll start another thread for bug reports!
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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:14 am

And a new 64-bit (beta/unsupported?) image just appeared here: https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspios_arm64/images/

That will be the one that I try first :)

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:24 am

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Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:14 am
And a new 64-bit (beta/unsupported?) image just appeared here: https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspios_arm64/images/

That will be the one that I try first :)
Just to clarify, we have not released an official 64bit build, so the one here is definitely a beta/unsupported, although feel free to report any issues with it on the reports thread. Please mark reports as 64bit.
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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:40 am

Regarding screen tearing, this seems to need the mutter window manager to be 100% effective, based on my limited testing with this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL_JkcEFbE.

In other words, if you running on a Pi with 2GB or more memory, then you will have mutter compositing the desktop by default and no screen tearing, but on 1GB and lower models there will still be some screen tearing, although it seems less noticeable than on previous releases.
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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:45 am

andrum99 wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:40 am
Regarding screen tearing, it seems this seems to need the mutter window manager to be 100% effective, based on my limited testing with this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfL_JkcEFbE.

In other words, if you running on a Pi with 2GB or more memory, then you will have mutter compositing the desktop by default and no screen tearing, but on 1GB and lower models there will still be some screen tearing, although it seems less noticeable than on previous releases.
That seems a likely outcome.
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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:41 pm

Is the new 64-bit beta version also bullseye-based, with all the changes noted for the 32-bit version?

If so, will there be at least security updates for those running the buster version?

I ask because I don't want to reinstall my system (my home PC) twice, now and when official 64-bit is released.

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:53 pm

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Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:41 pm
Is the new 64-bit beta version also bullseye-based, with all the changes noted for the 32-bit version?

If so, will there be at least security updates for those running the buster version?

I ask because I don't want to reinstall my system (my home PC) twice, now and when official 64-bit is released.
It has bullseye in the filename.

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:16 pm

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Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:41 pm
Is the new 64-bit beta version also bullseye-based, with all the changes noted for the 32-bit version?

If so, will there be at least security updates for those running the buster version?

I ask because I don't want to reinstall my system (my home PC) twice, now and when official 64-bit is released.
The 64bit build of Bullseye is a beta, like the previous version, and therefor relatively unsupported. If you do decide to use it, that is your decision.

Is it the same as the 32bit version, so has all the same updates.
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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:44 pm

As long as the desktop doesn't go full-on Gnome ad disallow desktop icons, I'll be okay. But I'm long-range side-eyeing Wayland, for it's the best way I've found for breaking remote desktops like VNC.
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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:08 pm

Thank you for your great work. I hope this supports pi 0 2 w out of the box ☺

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:14 pm

ladiesman6969 wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:08 pm
Thank you for your great work. I hope this supports pi 0 2 w out of the box ☺
Every OS release we make supports every Pi currently on the market when it was released. So yes, Zero 2 is supported out of the box.

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:41 am

Is Buster still supported (i mean it will be updated for some time, right? not just security updates)?
If yes, is there any known EOL date for Buster?

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:10 am

spl23 wrote:
Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:14 pm
Every OS release we make supports every Pi currently on the market when it was released. So yes, Zero 2 is supported out of the box.
Is that subtle new wording?
I thought every Pi, whether "currently on the market" or not can run the new OS releases.
I realise that it could be very difficult to keep to this in the future (eg 64 bit and switching to Wayland (requiring more memory) for non-Lite) but I think it is the first time I have noticed this wording.

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Re: Heads up: new release!

Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:35 am

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Is Buster still supported (i mean it will be updated for some time, right? not just security updates)?
If yes, is there any known EOL date for Buster?
Debian has August 2022 as end-of-life for Buster. The RaspiOS end-of-life usually follows that by some time delay.
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