petersesztak
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How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:53 pm

Dear Sirs,
I have a question:
How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot/startup of Pi2 ?

(and: is there a way to change startup screen at boot to custom bitmap??)

Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Péter
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Joe Schmoe
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:56 pm

I never see any Windows logo when any of my Pis boot.
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)

fruitoftheloom
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:25 pm

Joe Schmoe wrote:I never see any Windows logo when any of my Pis boot.
https://youtu.be/hJw37EopuZQ

On start up one gets the 4 squares in a square, I believe this is similer to the 4 raspberries on Raspbian, donating 4 cores :?:
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:28 pm

petersesztak wrote:Dear Sirs,
I have a question:
How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot/startup of Pi2 ?

(and: is there a way to change startup screen at boot to custom bitmap??)

Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Péter
In Raspbian OS I belive but am not sure that you need to add

Code: Select all

logo.nologo
to /boot/cmdline.txt , so maybe Windows 10 IoT Core has similar :?:
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:37 pm

petersesztak wrote:Dear Sirs,
I have a question:
How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot/startup of Pi2 ?

(and: is there a way to change startup screen at boot to custom bitmap??)

Thanks in advance,
Best regards,
Péter
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petersesztak
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:22 pm

Dear GerardWassink,
Regarding your slightly unpleasant comment ("[SNIP]... This is the second post where you are 'having a go' at MS/Windows -take it elsewhere."):

Based on my opinion: this (sub)forum is related to Raspberry Pi and Windows 10 IoT stuffs.

According this: I hope this is 100% perfect place to ask/reply Raspberry Windows 10 IoT related conversations.

This is why I do NOT understand why you are try to act as a moderator regarding what kind of questions are 'appropriate' for forum and which one is not?

If you have constructive behaviour -real answers/ideas from specialist: highly appreciated.
(If you have no adequate real answer -please, limit yourself).

Thanks,
Péter

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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:13 pm

petersesztak wrote:How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot/startup of Pi2 ?
DisableWin10IoTLogo.jpg
i am pretty sure, you can not disable the Win 10 logo at boot time.
it is branded/hardcoded in the Win 10 IoT Core kernel/bootloader and is fully in hands of Microsoft.
(at that boot stage, where the logo appears, it is not Raspberry Pi foundation bootcode running anymore...
if you see the win 10 logo, at that stage, it is Microsoft code running already)
maybe you can hack the Win 10 kernel/bootloader, but that would violate the license agreements.
or possibly as an OEM, you could get a tool from Microsoft and agreement to change the logo...
but those tools are not available for normal end-users.
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petersesztak
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:01 pm

dear beta-tester,
Thanks for your explanation.
The only hope, that Microsoft will open such a function in the future.
Thanks,
Péter

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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:52 pm

petersesztak wrote:The only hope, that Microsoft will open such a function in the future.
do you have a Desktop PC?
do you have Windows installed there (or any other OS)?
are you able to disable the logo there without dirty hacks?
showing a logo is mandatory for companies and they are not willed or intended to hide their logos for free...
so why Microsoft should hide their logo... would be like buying a car with out a logo... i never saw that ;)
(even the Raspberry Pi has its logo on the PCB)
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:03 pm

I often see cars with the logos removed, even though the cars are highly recognizable (Hondas or BMWs). I read that you can use fishing line as a saw to cut through the pegs that are used to mount the logos on the sheet metal. Maybe in some countries this is prohibited, in others it is not.

In the past Microsoft has documented, and at other times others have documented, how Windows logo screens can be changed. Microsoft doesn't document how you can prepare an SD card to run W10IOT without having W10Desktop installed but others have.

If the method of removing the logo were discovered would it be welcome in this forum?

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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:38 pm

Perhaps you can purchase a license that will allow you to remove the logo?
As with a lot of "free" (as in beer) game engines, you can use them without paying a licensing fee or royalties, but only if you leave the splash logo on screen and follow their branding guidelines. If you buy a commercial license for most of these engines, you are free to remove the branding.

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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:17 am

cardiff space man wrote:I often see cars with the logos removed, ...
sure, but you can not buy it like this from the manufacturer (except as special offer under special conditions). i am talking about normal end user.
cardiff space man wrote:In the past Microsoft has documented, and at other times others have documented, how Windows logo screens can be changed. Microsoft doesn't document how you can prepare an SD card to run W10IOT without having W10Desktop installed but others have.
if you know the way how to do for Win 10 desktop, then you properly know, how to do for Win 10 IoT, as long you don't have to change binary code (most of the configuration files and registry entries are working the same way).
even BCDEDIT is available on Win 10 IoT for RPi2, where you can add, change boot options for Win 10 IoT or could realize a multiboot Win IoT or boot into a VHD image - in case Win IoT is able to mount VHD images and Win IoT is licensed to boot from virtual storages.
changing configuration files or registry entries does not violate end-user-license and may published in the forum.
but changing/hacking resourcefiles, binary code of libraries or executables would violate licenses and should not be posted in the forum i think.
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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:27 am

This is easy to do. Guys saying you have to violate some agreements are incorrect {MOD EDIT - INSULTS REMOVED].

Just go to PowerShell on your PC with the PI connected over some network.

Enter these commands...

1) Set-Item WSMan:\localhost\Client\TrustedHosts -Value 169.254.168.135
(this allows you to do a remote powershell connection, replace my IP with your RPI's IP of course for all this stuff)

2) Enter-PSSession -ComputerName 169.254.168.135 -Credential 169.254.168.135\Administrator
(it might take a min, but you get prompted for a password, p@ssw0rd is the default for the Win IOT)

3) bcdedit /set quietboot on

4) bcdedit /set bootux Disabled

5) bcdedit /set bootuxdisabled on

6) exit
(this ends the PowerShell session)

Then just reboot. You can also change the image, if you like, but that's a different post ;)

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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:37 am

@8r13n thanks. Can you share with us how to change the logo image? I have another thread already started. See here: viewtopic.php?f=105&t=132801
8r13n wrote:This is easy to do. Guys saying you have to violate some agreements are incorrect {MOD EDIT - INSULTS REMOVED].

Just go to PowerShell on your PC with the PI connected over some network.

Enter these commands...

1) Set-Item WSMan:\localhost\Client\TrustedHosts -Value 169.254.168.135
(this allows you to do a remote powershell connection, replace my IP with your RPI's IP of course for all this stuff)

2) Enter-PSSession -ComputerName 169.254.168.135 -Credential 169.254.168.135\Administrator
(it might take a min, but you get prompted for a password, p@ssw0rd is the default for the Win IOT)

3) bcdedit /set quietboot on

4) bcdedit /set bootux Disabled

5) bcdedit /set bootuxdisabled on

6) exit
(this ends the PowerShell session)

Then just reboot. You can also change the image, if you like, but that's a different post ;)

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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:22 pm

8r13n wrote:This is easy to do. Guys saying you have to violate some agreements are incorrect {MOD EDIT - INSULTS REMOVED].

Just go to PowerShell on your PC with the PI connected over some network.

Enter these commands...

1) Set-Item WSMan:\localhost\Client\TrustedHosts -Value 169.254.168.135
(this allows you to do a remote powershell connection, replace my IP with your RPI's IP of course for all this stuff)

2) Enter-PSSession -ComputerName 169.254.168.135 -Credential 169.254.168.135\Administrator
(it might take a min, but you get prompted for a password, p@ssw0rd is the default for the Win IOT)

3) bcdedit /set quietboot on

4) bcdedit /set bootux Disabled

5) bcdedit /set bootuxdisabled on

6) exit
(this ends the PowerShell session)

Then just reboot. You can also change the image, if you like, but that's a different post ;)

Would you let us know how to change the boot logo?

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Re: How to disable Windows 10 IoT logo during boot?

Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:11 pm

A lot of odd commens and reponses here.

Note: "Conscript" has shown a good way to disable UI on boot, so if that works - go with that.

It is possible to remove the logo, but not the way you would imagine.
What companies typically do i license Windows Embedded, or in your case the IOT image, and implement their system on top of that.

What you have done is probably just to install Visual Studio and burn the IOT image.
This is ofcourse un-branded and meant for developing your single-boeard application or system.

When you have done so, then you have to contact Microsoft and license the OS for mass distribution.
It is at this point that you get the chance to "re-brand" the system, including changes to the boot picture.
But now we are talking quite a nifty price-tag.

And to people with these absurd, snarky remarks about "take it elsewhere" -- take your own advice!
Moron comments like that only helps serious developers move away from the PI. So take your linux fanboy-ism elsewhere.

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