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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:48 am

6by9 wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:27 am
jamesh wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:42 am
...the 2 in RP2040 means two cores...
...
RP1 is the first silicon we designed.
RP2 (RP2040) is the second silicon we designed.
RP3 (Pi02) is the third silicon we designed.
All four of the above statements are true :ugeek:

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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:06 am

/proc/device-tree/model
"Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0" for me
Who has a Pi5 to try this?

Incidentally, congrats to Pi team only one rev for Pi400 ;)
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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:02 am

Gavinmc42 wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 12:05 am
Not sure what improvements could be done on the Pi5 to bring out a better Pi6.
I suspect the RP1 and Power chip will stay and BCM2712 swapped for ?
Faster Ethernet to make Jeff Geerling happy?
Faster WiFi?
Not sure I entirely agree with that. The general idea is certainly sound, but there's room to die shrink and improvements to the RP1. There are a number of possible improvements. Faster PCIe (it is spec'd for gen 2 and can--mostly--do gen 3, so a full gen 3 or gen 4), faster USB bus to support USB 3.1 (and--eventually--3.2) are both obvious paths. Could also steal ideas from the RP2 and add some number of use-accessible PIOs. Whether or not the chip gets renamed...that's up to the folks at RPT.
Mind you, RPi Ltd don't just make SBC's, they do other stuff too :D
Expect more stuff :lol:
Indeed they do. The new PSU has tremendous potential for uses well beyond powering Pi5s. Perhaps at long last, Eben will be able to work on the long ago proposed 10" RPF display. With 4 lanes at 1.5Gb/s, it might even have FHD resolution. And, of course, there are the dead obvious products in the form of CM5 and Pi500. One might even suggest a "Pi500+" that incorporates an access hatch in the bottom to install the RTC battery and an M.2 slot--and, perhaps, more DRAM--so the whole is completely self-contained. (I'm thinking the Pi500, when it happens will be as near identical to the Pi400, except for the processor, power, and DRAM, as makes no difference. Could probably even use the same case.) However, I"m sure that the good folks at RPT have thought of all those possibilities already...and more besides.

For now, the Pi5 is a mighty fine looking piece of kit and I can think of uses for at least 4 of them right off.

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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:43 am

The general idea is certainly sound, but there's room to die shrink and improvements to the RP1
A big reason for RP1 was ESD protection from kids fingers on the GPIO pins, a die shrink reduces that protection.
But an improved version with your suggested mods, USB 3.2 etc would improve any Pi5+/6 capabilities.
For now, the Pi5 is a mighty fine looking piece of kit and I can think of uses for at least 4 of them right off.
Yep and CM5 and Pi500......

4 lane DSI for FHD LCD sure would be nice, I like my dual screen development Pi's.

The Pi guys probably have bunch of things in the pipeline, not sure how many engineers they are up to now.
The number of hardware and software people plus having some $$$ to outsource drivers and partnering with chip makers.
The Pi5 release logistically and engineering wise in hindsight is a much bigger deal than anything they have done before.

Not sure if Pi500 should be the same as the Pi400.
It could be, but after using my Pi400 everyday for ~2years the keyboard is wearing out.
I still have a 40year old IBM keyboard, they last a long time.
A Mech keyboard with replaceable keyswitches should last much longer than membrane and be better suited to the Thin Client market?
Do both, Pi500 and Pi500M ;)

Will Pi500 be repairable desktop PC or Apple (buy new one every year) throw away model?
Possible first use for my first Pi5 is to CADCAM CNC my own Pi Mech Keyboard with Pi5 or CM5 inside ;)
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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Tue Oct 03, 2023 3:33 am

Gavinmc42 wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:06 am
/proc/device-tree/model
"Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0" for me
Who has a Pi5 to try this?

Incidentally, congrats to Pi team only one rev for Pi400 ;)
https://gist.github.com/cleverca22/97e4 ... 27c0cd034a
model = "Raspberry Pi 5 Model B Rev 1.0";

https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/bl ... pi-5-b.dts

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/ {
	compatible = "raspberrypi,5-model-b", "brcm,bcm2712";
	model = "Raspberry Pi 5 Model B";

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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:44 pm

FWIW, the board reports itself as "Raspberry Pi 5 Model B", but all the official documentation refers to it as just "Raspbery Pi 5". And we've been told the "Model B" thing is being dropped.

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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Sun Oct 08, 2023 11:08 pm

Before the compatible string/model gets too far proliferated through code. Could someone with Raspberry Pi answer if the kernel/firmware is going to drop the model b, or is it staying?

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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:52 am

jamesh wrote:
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AFAIK, the full name is "Raspberry Pi 5 Model B"
But it's from England, so the full name is something like Raspberry Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Pi 5
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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:00 am

scruss wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:52 am
jamesh wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:38 pm
AFAIK, the full name is "Raspberry Pi 5 Model B"
But it's from England, so the full name is something like Raspberry Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Pi 5
Considering they're made in Wales, I'd've expected "Tudor" in there somewhere, rather than Plantagenet.

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Re: What is the full name of the new Raspberry Pi 5 model?

Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:27 am

W. H. Heydt wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:00 am
scruss wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2023 1:52 am
jamesh wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:38 pm
AFAIK, the full name is "Raspberry Pi 5 Model B"
But it's from England, so the full name is something like Raspberry Sextus Denys Oswolf Fraudatifilius Tollemache-Tollemache de Orellana Plantagenet Pi 5
Considering they're made in Wales, I'd've expected "Tudor" in there somewhere, rather than Plantagenet.
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